09.03.2008

VanceS contributed 112 messages, 4 emotes, 27 private messages during 170 minutes. 2008.03.09 05:07:42 Login Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. SedatA joined the room. VanceS: Hi Sedat SedatA: hi Vance SedatA: how are you? VanceS: a bit weary but doing well otherwise VanceS: yourself? SedatA: pretty good SedatA: I just come back from a seminar VanceS: what about? SedatA: Tapped In, Del.icio.us, Nicenet, Dokeos VanceS: dokeos, what is that? SedatA: it was yesterday....whole afternoon SedatA: www.dokeos.com SedatA: it is really nice place for creating an online classroom SedatA: forum, tests, blogging, tracking, learning paths SedatA: virtual classroom as well SedatA: it is free... and it says more than free... SedatA: because it is free to download the installation files VanceS: I've heard of it SedatA: and change its name SedatA: and also it is free to sell SedatA: but there is a pitfall VanceS: what's that SedatA: they change, delete or add new tools everyday SedatA: so it can be a suprise while you are presenting VanceS: hmmm SedatA: for example, you say that we have forum page... SedatA: but while you are presenting SedatA: you see that it is removed SedatA smiles VanceS: very odd SedatA smiles VanceS: I should send you more transcripts SedatA: yes.. I am waiting for them... SedatA: and I will publish them soon after you send SedatA: I think it is time to work on those transcripts.... VanceS: let me see what I can do here SedatA: we can analyze it in terms of "social presence" which is really popular nowadays... SedatA: but I have to read more about it SedatA: by the way... nowadays, I have a really big problem.... SedatA: or question in my mind DennisOl joined the room. VanceS: Hi Dennis SedatA: I also sent that question to our Webheads group SedatA: hi Denniz SedatA: Dennis DennisOl left the room (signed off). SedatA: how can I collect data on Second Life? how can I keep the tracks of students? SedatA: I am planning my PhD dissertation nowadays... I wil start writing in November VanceS: I'm not the one to ask about that VanceS: but if there is a way, webheads will know DennisOl joined the room. VanceS: Hi dennis, wb SedatA: Gavin said that I could use audacity to record the voice SedatA: but there is no way to keep students' tracks DennisOl left the room (signed off). VanceS: you can record using camtasia as well SedatA: that can be one solution DennisOl joined the room. SedatA: but then my students have to log in at the same time VanceS grabs on to Dennis and tries to hold him in place DennisOl: Hi, Vance and Sedat. SedatA: hi Dennis DennisOl: Sorry about earlier. I had browser problems. VanceS: ha, happens DennisOl: Don't let me interrupt the discussion you two were having. VanceS: Sedat was wondering how to track student interactions in Second Life DennisOl: No help from me there. RickRo joined the room. DennisOl: My progress in SL is very slow. DennisOl: Hi, Rick. RickRo: Hey Y'all! VanceS: I have trouble tracking my own actions ;-) SedatA smiles VanceS: Hey Rick DennisOl chuckles SedatA: hi Rick RickRo: I had trouble getting to the reception--had to log in twice.... DennisOl: So did I, Rick. RickRo: Hey Sedat! VanceS: how are things in Jordan? DennisOl: I have a quick question. RickRo: Nice and warm here. I'm too busy to enjoy it, though.I'm just back from Aqaba (without time to look at fish) RickRo: waits for D's question VanceS was just out looking at fish in Dibba, but awaiting Dennis question now DennisOl: What does the extension .docx mean in Microsoft applications? VanceS: Office 2007 VanceS: in office 2007 you can save files as doc or docx DennisOl: I see. VanceS: Office 2003 will open only doc, Office 2007 either RickRo: Dibba? RickRo: Dibba.docx DennisOl: OK. Thanks. Since I'm on a Mac, I probably don't have Office 2007, so I'll have to ask the person who sent the .docx file to send a .doc file. VanceS: Dibba is a charming little village on the UAE coastline with lovely diving and a dangerous off license (dangerous since there's so much leisure time there, nothing else to do) NergizK joined the room. DennisOl: Nergiz! NergizK: Hi Dennis DennisOl: How're you doing? VanceS: there might be a conversion utility from Microsoft for docx to doc NergizK: I was just chatting with you in my room and was wandering why nobody replied :-)) SedatA: hi Nergiz DennisOl: Aha! So now you have your office here, right? VanceS: hi, you worked it out NergizK: Yes! DennisOl: I'll look into the conversion utility, Vance. Thanks. DennisOl: Congratulations! DennisOl: (on having your office here) NergizK: i'm fine Dennis. Just can't think properly today. Have a cold. NergizK: Hi Sedat! DennisOl: Sorry to hear that, Nergiz. I hope you feel better very soon. NergizK: How are you all? VanceS: just fine NergizK: It's not too bad Dennis. I'm emjoing the sun on the roof terrasse SedatA: pretty good RickRo: Hi from Jordan, Nergiz! NergizK: Good to hear DennisOl: That sounds wonderful, Nergiz! NergizK: Hi Rick! VanceS: roof terrasse where? SedatA: where are you from Nergiz? NergizK: How nice, from Jordan NergizK: in Turkey Vance RickRo: How nice, from Turkey! {:-{>} NergizK: at home VanceS: Bursa? NergizK -)) NergizK: Yes SedatA: Bursa? SedatA: you were one of the participants of yesterday's seminar? NergizK: It's a beautiful day NergizK: No, Sedat, I wasn't. What seminar? NergizK: Ah, NergizK: I know NergizK: You mean the ELT seminar SedatA: yes NergizK: Wow, how do you know? SedatA: I was in Bursa yesterday NergizK: REally? SedatA: and I was the presenter SedatA smiles NergizK: Yesterday? SedatA: I showed Tapped In, Del.icio.us, Nicenet and Dokeoes SedatA: Dokeos SedatA: yes NergizK: OH, I should have known that. NergizK: I am talking about the one on the 22 NergizK: Where was it? SedatA: It was on the fourth floor of Alp Dagitim NergizK: Rick are you from Jordan or only work there? SedatA: Nuans Publishing orgized it, I think NergizK: Is that a plublishing house? SedatA: organized SedatA: yes NergizK: Hm. Next time, I hope I know'll know about it before VanceS: why don't you do these online? SedatA: I though it infact SedatA: but then recognized that those topics are not really novel for Webheads NergizK: Vance I think many teachers wouln't know how to partipicate SedatA: Nicenet, Tapped In, Delicious SedatA: we are all using as webheads VanceS: there are many coming up from BAW and learningwithcomputers CarlaA joined the room. NergizK: Really Vance? When and where? DennisOl: Carlinha! SedatA: hi Carla NergizK: Hi Carla VanceS: hi Carla CarlaA: hi, all! CarlaA: great to be here with you DennisOl: Are you back in KW now? CarlaA: Yes! ready for one more exciting year, Dennis VanceS: my point to sedat is that these groups are there because many feel that webheads is too far ahead of them DennisOl: Terrific! VanceS: so seminars on basics might be appreciated NergizK: I sometimes feel the same Vance SedatA: I see SedatA: I will let you know next time then CarlaA: which groups, Vance, are you talking about? sorry for interrupting... SedatA: your participation is also really nice for me VanceS: I was encouraging sedat to put his seminars online VanceS: I don't know about Dokeos for example VanceS: we all learn from such things SedatA: yes, you are quite right CarlaA: oh, yes. DennisOl: Dokeos: DennisOl: http://www.dokeos.com/ CarlaA: and sedat remember to tag them with webheadsinaction so we can find them SedatA: where? VanceS: I just got a SLURL from Kip Yellowjacket NergizK: Kip is building a terrific place in SL NinaTL joined the room. SedatA: hi Nina CarlaA: http://technorati.com/search/webheadsinaction?authority=n&language=en NinaTL: Hi everybody! NinaTL hugs all around. CarlaA: hey Nina! NergizK: Hi Nina! NinaTL: Nergiz, nice to see a new grad! NergizK: Thanks Nina :-) NinaTL: Carla, how was your trip to Brazil? CarlaA: fantastic! CarlaA: no words to express what it felt being back home NinaTL: Like you could really breathe again? CarlaA: http://brazilnaskeywest.wordpress.com/ NinaTL: That's how I felt when I returned to the States after 3 wonderful years in France CarlaA: yes, Nina! you're right DennisOl: Hi, Nina. I was multitasking and didn't see you. Hugs! NergizK: Carla are you from Brazil? NinaTL: I hadn't realized I was so tense just trying to fit in CarlaA: now I feel energized NinaTL: I loved France, spoke the language fluently and felt at home there CarlaA: yes, Nergiz. I'm a brazilian living in Key West, Florida NinaTL: but coming back to America was an amazing experience NergizK: Nina, there we have it again... home VanceS waves CarlaA: sorry I didn't introduce myself, Nergiz... NinaTL: Yes, Nergiz! NinaTL: Carla, Nergiz has a fascinating blog CarlaA: I'd love to see it NergizK: Just a beginner blog, Nina DennisOl: I agree with Nina about Nergiz's blog. NinaTL: It's about her re-entry shock returning to live in Turkey after many years (most of her life in fact) SedatA: URL? NergizK: Thanks by the way for all your comments CarlaA: Nergiz, so you were in BaW08, huh? DennisOl: Carlinha: The photos are wonderful! NinaTL: It was my pleasure NergizK: Yes, Carla NinaTL: I haven't visited it lately--too busy NinaTL: but I did subscribe to it SedatA: what is the URL? NergizK: And, as everybody else I was fascinated and still am CarlaA: this time I couldn't be there because I had intense 6 weeks with the blogging for educators and mentoring the big apple group CarlaA: thanks, Dennis. Photos that are memories of a fantastic week with family and friends. NergizK: Ah, I wanted to join the blogger group, too but glad I didn't. Would have been too much. DennisOl: Carlinha: Yes, that's obvious! NinaTL: I hope Nergiz won't mind if I share her blog's link NinaTL: http://rediscovering-bursa.blogspot.com/ CarlaA: you can still do it and explore it whenever you feel like it, Nergiz NergizK: Yes, that takes the pressure off a bit NergizK: Thanks, Nina. DennisOl: Carlinha: So many happy faces! ClaireB joined the room. DennisOl: Hi, Claire! Hugs! ClaireB: hi guys ClaireB hugs all VanceS: hey claire NinaTL hugs Claire NergizK: I like that clustrmap where you can see from where people have visited your blog NergizK: Hi Claire NergizK: Carla, my first teaching experience was in Brazil CarlaA: hi, Claire! NinaTL: Claire, have you met Nergiz? She is a citizen of the world, currently residing in Bursa, Turkey! ClaireB: hi hi hi CarlaA: really, Nergiz? Where? NergizK -)) ClaireB: yes, met her here last Sunday CarlaA: so you're a Turkish living in Germany, Nergiz? NergizK: Nina, I think everybody here is like that DennisOl: Nergiz: I had no idea you'd lived in so many different places! DennisOl: You're full of surprises! NergizK: No, Carla, I don't actually know CarlaA: we all are, right, Dennis? ClaireB: a turk DennisOl: Right, Claire! CarlaA: how come, nergiz? NergizK: I was born in Turkey but lived in Germany most of my life and have just returned to Turkey NergizK: In Rio do Sul in the South, Carla CarlaA: oh, I see. I'll read your blog, Nergiz. I bet you have lots to tell! NinaTL: How did you go to Brazil, Nergiz? CarlaA: oh, my husband is from Rio Grande do Sul, a Gaucho! NinaTL: Nergiz, did you customize your blog to show what looks like a kilim? NergizK: Nina, I went to a language school to San Diego and there I met this Brazilian teacher who had a school. Half a year later I had the change to visit and try teaching NinaTL: Wow NinaTL: San Diego and Rio do Sul in one sentence! NergizK: Yes, NIna. I took that picture in a museum and thought it fits CarlaA: interesting NinaTL: How did you put it there? NergizK: Anyway, I liked the experience so I'm still a teacher :-) ClaireB: brasil is absolutely fabulous!!! NergizK: Nina, I think that depends on the template you choose. With some you can customize the the header NinaTL: How do you know which ones are customizable? NergizK: I agree Claire. I liked the green NinaTL: Maybe Carla, the blogging queen, also knows CarlaA: nina, most of them are. TerryM joined the room. NinaTL: I didn't realize that! TerryM left the room. CarlaA: wordpress, blogger, etc CarlaA: if you take a look at my personal one, you'll see the waters of key west! http://brazilnaskeywest.wordpress.com/ NergizK: It's a nice way to have the blogs look a bit more interesting and not standard NinaTL: I'd like to make English Power look a little more distinctive--that's in wordpress CarlaA: it makes it really personal, Nergiz NergizK: Distinctive, that#s the word I was looking for NergizK: I'll have a look at your blog. But wordpress is normally blocked from Turkey NergizK -( SedatA: wordpress? NinaTL: Nice! It's new, isn't it? I am enjoying your slideshow from your trip SedatA: it is not blocked NergizK: Yes, Sedat NinaTL: Too bad I can't touch type SedatA: I use it NinaTL: You look thrilled, Carla CarlaA: oh, you can easily do it, nina, by going to your dashboard, then presentation, "custom image header", nina NinaTL: Is that Dudu with green hair??? CarlaA: it was fantastic, nina. NergizK: Normally, it is, Sedat. I've just checked it again. But you can view it from anonymous proxies CarlaA: yes. It's dudu, my oldest with his friends, my friends' kids altogether NinaTL: And is the gray-haired woman your mom? BeyzaY joined the room. ClaireB: carla, i hope that you attend whatever webhead dinner is on thursday night at tesol because that's the only night i can attend DennisOl: I saw some familiar faces—your mother, Dudú, Caio, Erika, Celso . . . . CarlaA: yes, Nina BeyzaY: hi all CarlaA: hey, Beyza! DennisOl: They all looked happy (and so did you, Carlinha). VanceS: the bubbleshares work fast ClaireB: hi beyza BeyzaY: nice to see you again CarlaA: yes, Claire! I'll be there VanceS: Hi Beyza ClaireB hugs beyza NinaTL: I hope webheads will eat somewhere together every night in NY NergizK: You even know each other's families, Dennis? :-) DennisOl: Hi, Beyza. RitaZ joined the room. NergizK: Hi Beyza SedatA: hi Beyza again ClaireB: good deal, carla; then we can meet f2f NinaTL: Hi Beyza! I missed your entrance DennisOl: Rita! Abrazos! RickRo: Hey Rita NinaTL: I'm watching Carla's slideshow ClaireB: and ronaldo will be there BeyzaY: np Nina ClaireB hugs rita warmly NergizK: Hi Rita! RitaZ hugs all dear friends NinaTL: Hi Rita BeyzaY: what are we talking about today NinaTL hugs Rita DennisOl: Nergiz: I know Carla's family. NinaTL: Carla, your mom is beautiful BeyzaY: welcome Rita NergizK: Carla's blog, Beyza CarlaA: I need to meet you Claire as my friends in Brazil said so many great things about you. I was jealous! CarlaA: not really, Nergiz. Beyza, it's a mix of topics as always! DennisOl: I'll be back in a few minutes. NinaTL: Carla, in Seattle I met Claire about 30 minutes before I left for Maryland ClaireB: carla, don't believe anything they said about me :-) CarlaA: Of course I did! ClaireB: rita, you're doing a session at tesol about using mp3 players? BeyzaY: can I have the url pls? RitaZ: I'll check that this time in Manhattan, Clari ;-)) CarlaA: Ronaldo is sooo excited about the trip and presenting CarlaA: hey, Rita! RitaZ: hi, Carla! NinaTL: Carla, are you staying until Sunday? NinaTL: I want to stay over Sat. night but I have no place to stay yet CarlaA: http://brazilnaskeywest.wordpress.com/ this is mine and we were also talking about Nergiz blog http://rediscovering-bursa.blogspot.com/ NinaTL: so I can go to Ronaldo's presentation ClaireB: nina, if I had a room you could share, but i have to leave fri afternoon NinaTL: So early, Claire? NinaTL: I have a cousin who lives in Harlem and I am going to ask her ClaireB: yes, i'm going only for a day and a half CarlaA: nina, I still don't know what will happen to me, but if my family leaves before, you can stay with me NinaTL: like me 2 weeks ago, 24 hours in California RitaZ: yeah, pity, Nina, Im also leaving on Sat, as you know, for CT, as my flight to Arg is on Sunday. ClaireB: carla, i think i see erika in the photos NinaTL: That would be great Carla, I suppose it will be a last-minute decision? BeyzaY: I can't see the blog as it's restricted here CarlaA: I'll be in NY with my husband and the kids, but my husband needs to get back home before we expected NergizK: Beyza go to www.youhide.com ClaireB: i'm sorry , beyza NinaTL: Carla, who is the pretty woman in the brown top? NergizK: And paste in the address CarlaA: yes, Claire, Erika was with me all the time NergizK: I can see it now NinaTL: Yes, Rita, I know :-( CarlaA: my dearest friend Gabi, Nina SedatA: if you change the properrties of your connection SedatA: you can also see wordpress CarlaA: we're inseparable! SedatA: from your computer SedatA: Nergiz and Beyza NergizK: How do you do that Sedat? SedatA: change DNS as 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 BeyzaY: oh really? ClaireB: she is really thrilled about going to japan SedatA: yes NinaTL: like carlerika? garla? ClaireB: (erika, that is) CarlaA: Sedat, cool, so then you have some tricks to unblock sites? SedatA smiles BeyzaY smiles CarlaA: yes, nina! NinaTL: Who's going to Japan? NergizK: Sound good but I still don't know where I can change that, Sedat SedatA: Unfortunately, I cannot CarlaA: Claire. I was in Brazil when she got the news to Japan. We celebrated the whole day. ClaireB: several webheads got scholarships to go to worldcall in japan NinaTL: (lots of people) ClaireB: wow! NergizK: Japan, New York.... NinaTL: Erika NergizK is sad ClaireB: yeah, webheads get around ClaireB: why sad, nergiz? CarlaA: we were at my uncle's farm, he cooked for us and I made some mojitos! NergizK: I'm happy for those who can go, though :-) SedatA: I wasn't awarded for the scholarship NinaTL: Nergiz, I will be sad next year; I am pretty sure this will be my last TESOL convention ClaireB: i'm sorry, sedat; try again next time RitaZ: I can understand, Nergiz, its great fun to get together!!! SedatA: I will try BeyzaY: I'm also sad as I can't go there SedatA smiles NinaTL: Did people have to apply for the WorldCALL scholarship? Somehow I totally missed that... NergizK: Your last? Why that, Nina? ClaireB: yes, and the scholarship information was posted on evonline2002 NinaTL: Please go to NY virtually via http://wia-in-nyc.blogspot.com NergizK: I will certainly do that, Nina NinaTL: It's very expensive, and if I don't get funded I doubt I can go NinaTL: New York is only 4 hours ground transp CarlaA: yes, nina, they applied, but we couldn't NinaTL: so I am splurging NinaTL: Last year I was funded for Seatlle CarlaA: only developing countries NergizK: That's my problem. If you are self-employed you can only fund yourself :-) ClaireB: negiz, can you take a tax deduction for it? VanceS: I'm having to pay my way to TESOL and to Fukuoka as well NinaTL: Who funded the scholarships? Are they for convention fees or the whole trip? NergizK: I probably could, Claire. BeyzaY: it's really hard to be funded even when you work Nergiz ClaireB: yeah vance, but you make a decent living VanceS: true claire, it's a relative term NergizK: Vance, that's why I would like to teach in the UAE for a year or so ;-) ClaireB: well for me the exciting news is that my husband is going with me to Japan! NinaTL: Vance, will you go anywhere else in the US while you are here? btw I am so happy you can come! :-) ClaireB: he got funding NelbaQ joined the room. ClaireB: hi nelba CarlaA: hey, Nelba! NelbaQ: Morning, everybody! NinaTL: Hi Nelba BeyzaY: Hi Nelba! VanceS: I will only go to NYC Nina RitaZ: GREAT , Clari!!! BeyzaY: nice to see you here Vance NergizK: Maybe you can get a scholarship one day NergizK: Beyza CarlaA: Vance, it will be great to see you there again! NergizK: Or Sedat. VanceS: it must be hard for the scholarship committee to reach that decision DennisOl: Hi, Nelba. NergizK: Sedat, how long have you been with the webheads NergizK: ? VanceS: so many excellent candidates NelbaQ: Hi, Dennis! NergizK: Hi Nelba RitaZ: hi, Nelna SedatA: I have been with Webheads since 2005 DennisOl: ¡Abrazos, Nelba! RitaZ: Nelba VanceS: hey Nelba NelbaQ: Hi, Rita. getting ready to NY? CarlaA: I was a reader of a scholarship award this year and it was so tough to get to a conclusion... ClaireB: vance, having chaired the scholarship committe twice, i can tell you that the decisions are agonizing DennisOl: Yes, there were a LOT of excellent candidates. RitaZ: yeah, Nelba ;-) NinaTL: Carla, sorry I am reading your post, what happened to Tia Gracinha? ClaireB: yes, there were ClaireB: this time i served as an advisor to the committee but did not vote NelbaQ: Have you got your American visa recently, Rita? VanceS: all applicants were worthy RitaZ: many years ago, Nelba CarlaA: she had a brain cancer, Nina... NinaTL: Oh I am so sorry. My mom died of brain cancer in 1983. NelbaQ: oh, I must get one... and I am worried about it. It is said they are hard to give visas :( NinaTL: It's very hard CarlaA: we're trying to recover... DennisOl: I'm also sorry, Carla. NinaTL: How old was she? DennisOl: And my heart goes out to you. NelbaQ left the room (signed off). NelbaQ joined the room. CarlaA: Nelba, I think they're not so hard now with the visas NergizK: Sorry, to hear about that CarlaA: 50, Nina. That was the hard part. ClaireB: i'm so sorry, carla RitaZ: not that hard now, Nelba NinaTL: How tragic, so young DennisOl: Oh, my. Yes, definitely tragic. NelbaQ: well, I will see. and tell you. CarlaA: with 3 young adult kids... NinaTL: Was she your mother's sister? CarlaA: Nelba, don't worry. It will be fine. RitaZ: so sorry to hear that, Carla CarlaA: yes, nina. NelbaQ: By the way, happy WOMEN's Day to the ladies. ThomasLev joined the room. NelbaQ: better late than never :) NinaTL: Yes, happy women's day! VanceS: yayy ladies ClaireB: hi thomas! VanceS: Hi Tom DennisOl: Yes, happy Women's Day! ClaireB hugs tomas NinaTL: Hi Tom! DennisOl: Hey, Tom! RitaZ: hi, Tom NinaTL hugs Tom CarlaA: hi, Tom! ThomasLev: hello! NinaTL: How's the banjo? ThomasLev: hugs returned! ClaireB: how is the weather where you are,, tom? DennisOl: Can I send a hug, too, Tom? ThomasLev: yes NinaTL: In MD it's freezing, about 28 ClaireB: rick, what are you up to? ThomasLev: here it's about the same ClaireB: why so quiet? NergizK: OH, Nina. I'm sitting on the terrasse and enjoying the sun DennisOl sends Tom a big hug BeyzaY: Hi Tom NinaTL: yesterday I went for a walk with only a light fleece jacket, and at night I almost froze in my sheepskin coat ThomasLev: third ice storm finally gone NinaTL: Lucky you, Nergiz! NergizK: Where are you Tom? DennisOl: I remember those Southern Illinois ice storms. ThomasLev: southern Illinois, USA NergizK: Yes, Nina. But I got a cold anyway VanceS: anyone coming to Second Life later today? RitaZ: hopefully we'll get fine weather in NYC, just cool VanceS: I just posted a SLURL VanceS: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evonline2002_webheads/message/18089 NergizK: I would like to come, Vance. When? RitaZ: whats there, Vance? NinaTL: Hard to predict the weather in early April, even here in MD it can be quite chilly VanceS: Kip Yellowjacket will dust off his bag of tricks DennisOl: "Discover Southern Illinois": DennisOl: http://www.discoversil.com/ NergizK: OH, great! VanceS: check out his blog, url in that message RitaZ: thanks, vance DafneG joined the room. NinaTL: Because of all the buses and taxis I don't want to bring a lot of stuff NinaTL: Hi Daf! SedatA: hi Dafne CarlaA: brb VanceS: Hi Daf NergizK: Hi Daf RitaZ hugs Daf DafneG hugs and kisses everybody on both cheeks ClaireB hugs daf ThomasLev: Hi Daf! DennisOl: Southern Illinois Tourism: DennisOl: http://www.adventureillinois.com/ VanceS: I just posted the SLURL for Kip's SL demo today ClaireB: what bag of tricks does he have? VanceS: are you coming? (Daf?) 18:00 GMT? DennisOl: Dafne! Abrazos! BeyzaY: Hi Daf! DafneG: Kip´s SLenglish is great NelbaQ: Hi, Daf! ClaireB: vance, what time is it now in gmt? VanceS: 13:23 GMT right now DafneG: belated happy woman´s day, girls ClaireB: here in the us we changed time last night, and I'm confused ClaireB: ah, thanks RitaZ: same to you, Daf, gracias!! BeyzaY: same to u Daf BeyzaY: and ladies VanceS: Kip puts videos of his tricks at YouTube ClaireB: cool VanceS: You can see some on his blog http://esl-secondlife.blogspot.com JudithSW joined the room. RitaZ: what time is in Wash now, Nina? changed it? JudithSW left the room. CarlaA: it changed, Rita. DafneG: we took some of the BaW08 participants to Kip´s place, he gave us a tour CarlaA: it's 9:30, Rita ThomasLev: we sprung forward NinaTL: or is that sprang? DennisOl: And Arizona (or most of it) stayed the same. RitaZ: 2 hs difference with Arg, we'll change ours here in a week as well NergizK: Does that mean the time difference between PMT and GMT is now 9 hours only? DennisOl: (The Navajo Nation changes time. The rest of Arizona doesn't.) ClaireB: yes arizona likes to be different NinaTL: For me, usually gmt -5, we are now actually -4 RitaZ: between East USA and Arg I mean NergizK: Ah, OK ClaireB: yes, probably, nergiz NinaTL: The Navajos are with it RickRo: Because of Arizona, I can never get DST right... ClaireB: ah rick, there you are! DennisOl: And it's more different than that even: The Hopi Nation (part of which is inside the Navajo Nation) doesn't change time. DafneG: In Europe the time changes the last Suday in March CarlaA: It's great for me because now it's just 1 hour difference to Brazil RickRo: I am multitasking like crazy... CarlaA: easier to talk to folks back home ClaireB: that's one thing that i loved about going to brazil is that there isn't a big time difference VanceS: UAE does not change time (I like it) DafneG: it is 9:00 am in Caracas, now RitaZ: thast good, yes, Vance NelbaQ: here 11.30 a.m. Argentina NelbaQ: time for the asado ;) NinaTL: 9:27 here? ClaireB: yes, i really wonder why we bother DennisOl: It's about 6:30 AM in Phoenix, but 7:30 AM in the Navajo Nation. RickRo: It's always time for the asado... NelbaQ: hahaha, yes... NinaTL: Carla I am enjoying your Hallowwen photos now RickRo: and the churrasco too! NinaTL: Nice bangs! KristenDu joined the room. RitaZ: wow, Dennis, also an early riser!!! VanceS: I thought the mojito sounded interesting RickRo: Hi Kristen! DennisOl: Yes, I'm usually up early, Rita. KristenDu: HI ClaireB: hi kristen NinaTL: OK guys I have a serious question for you all DennisOl: Hi, Kristen. VanceS waves and listens NinaTL: It concerns Facebook NinaTL: I am going there more and more NinaTL: but I am confused about etiquette VanceS: I've been collecting links here http://del.icio.us/vancestevens/facebook RitaZ: why, Nina? NinaTL: I get lots of invitations to add applications that I don't particularly want to add. RitaZ: ah, just choose! VanceS: check those links, there's a sinister side NinaTL: If I "ignore" them do the people who send them find out and possibly get offended? NinaTL: Yes, that is what I am afraid of, even with invitations from webheads RitaZ: I also get some which I dont like, and offers I dont accept, like groups to join :-( VanceS: I try to avoid third party applications personally NinaTL: And if I delete something someone has posted on one of my walls, is that rude? Sometimes I have multiple copies of the same card or whatever DafneG: hey look at these photos from the first class on SL skills for teachers http://www.bubbleshare.com/album/328298.65fa9217771/overview#11562113 RitaZ: I do that :-() NinaTL: And sometimes they've just been there a long time so I feel like cleaning up the space NinaTL: Is that what everyone else does or do you all leave everything up forever? DafneG: still need to upload the photos from class 2 DennisOl: I think, at some point, we all eventually get to the point of declining offers to be added to someone's list of contacts. RitaZ: we cannot say "yes" to everything... VanceS: I'm really shy of facebook, it's great for connecting people NinaTL: Yes, but sometimes it seems like the majority of activity on facebook is invitations to join this or that or to take quizzes VanceS: but it's good to be wary DafneG: I don´t say yes to all the applications I m invited to add RitaZ: maybe we might sound rude, but again, I choose DafneG: me too ClaireB: at us universities, facebook is now really necessary as a connecting point -- for both undergrad and grad students NinaTL: Sometimes I find myself using it like email and I have to remind myself to be careful because it is so open NergizK: Necessary, Claire? NinaTL: There's an article in today's Washington Post about parents asking to "friend" their kids on Facebook DennisOl: Very nice photos, Dafne. DafneG: thanks, Dennis ClaireB: yes, because that is what people use to communicate VanceS: Did you see this? http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/309855 NergizK: Hm ClaireB: some of my students friend me, and others don't CarlaA: Is that about the facebook study group, Vance? DennisOl smiles at Dafne RitaZ: I find it too open, cannot see the point of using it with my stds, must be wrong there NinaTL: I find it a bit strange to be "friends" with my students because it permits me to see a dside of them they don't show in class, like "Interested in... hot girls" ThomasLev: What I find interesting is how much people seem to live on it VanceS: yes, Carla DennisOl: I feel the same way, Rita. CarlaA: I wonder where this will lead us, Vance... DafneG: yesterday I was the keynote speaker of a ventesol event here in Venezuela, and in an audience of more than 300 people, the only thing they knew was Facebook and blogger NergizK: I can't see the point of it ... maybe one day I will ClaireB: in my undergrad linguistics class, i asked 62 studnets how many had facebook accounts, and almost all did NinaTL: Wow, interesting article DennisOl: I can believe that, Dafne. ClaireB: i said as kind of a joke, why haven't you friended me? and about 8 of them did ThomasLev: Facebook is moving into Twitter NinaTL: A study group sounds innocent, but is it cheating? ThomasLev: did you hear that? DafneG: I was introduced to FB by one of my students NergizK: Nina, I think the same. My nephewa invited me and there are comments I don't really want to read DennisOl: But it's progress, in a way. Not so long ago, no one had heard of Blogger or Facebook (except younger folks, with Facebook). ClaireB: yes i am on twitter a lot NinaTL: I remember a friend of mine, an int'l student at Stanford, said everybody cheated (this was years ago), but they didn't consider it cheating--to them it was cooperating SusanR joined the room. RitaZ: Ive seen you, Clari ClaireB: hi susan SusanR: Hi Claire CarlaA: hi, susna ClaireB: yes, rita, and I've seen you :-) CarlaA: susan, I mean NinaTL: Hi Susan DafneG: the down side was that these young teachers are not using technnology, and they don´t know anything about it. ClaireB: rita, I think that you and i follow each other on twitter NelbaQ: I think as teachers we must hurry up teaching how to useTICs to teenagers DennisOl: Nina: I first heard the cheating vs cooperating argument many years ago. RitaZ: Vance opened my eyes as to how we can learn about new events and news ay Twitter NinaTL: Is it semantic or cultural? NelbaQ: In Buenos Aires there has been a serious problem in a shopping mall ClaireB: daf, what is even worse is that they **think** that they know about technology and they dont DafneG: the title of my talk was "From web 1.0 to web 3.0: Implications for TEFL", and I think it was above their understanding CarlaA: it's interesting, Dafne, because those kids use tech to socialize but they don't are not ICT literate DennisOl: Excellent points, Dafne and Claire. VanceS: it says in that article (I read it quickly) that the students were helpting each other arrive at the 'solution' but no one had actually posted the solution (yet) NinaTL: facebook has something similar to Twitter but of course you have to keep going and changing it NinaTL: I don't go to FB every day NelbaQ: two groups: floggers and another group meet there every Wednesday at 18 hs NinaTL: but when I do I enjoy getting news about a wide variety of contacts in one place, without feeling like I have to respond to any of it NelbaQ: last Wednesday, due to their differences they started fighting causing a real mess in the shopping. DafneG: I don´t have time to go to FB or Twitter everyday ClaireB: i love twitter, but my call students don't see the point CarlaA: a good way I found to socialize with students is to have our own learning, educational community, in Ning, for example. RitaZ: neither do I, Daf ClaireB: it's because they don't have a community KristenDu left the room. RickRo: floggers.... When did that come out? VanceS: were these rival groups online contacts nelba? CarlaA: Facebook is their sphere to socialize, but many might not like to mix it with NinaTL: sounds sadistic RitaZ: think so, Vance RickRo: nods CarlaA: mix it with "educational stuff" CarlaA: so, ning can play the trick DennisOl: I've seen that attitude, Carla. NinaTL: So back to my original question, if you invite me to take a quiz or add an application and I ignore or delete it, does it go back to you like a slap in the face? CarlaA: in a "neutral' space SusanR listens ClaireB: i don't think so at all nina. people invite me to do stuff all the time, and i don't have time, so i mostly ignore it VanceS: Konrad Gogowski (sp) talks about a third place, neither home nor business RickRo: some sort of smiley is called for NelbaQ: Rick, I saw the news last Wed. DafneG: I don´t think so, NIna CarlaA: I ignore it, nina ClaireB: vance, it's the digital arena RickRo: a fmiley.... NelbaQ: floggers are the ones who like uploading photos ClaireB: and it's where we are living DennisOl: Carlinha: In one of my last classes in "An International Exchange," the students were very familiar with Facebook, but they didn't like "real" blogging. NelbaQ: I think teens and children are exploring the net without guidance... RickRo: I get that here too.... NelbaQ: that may be dangerous CarlaA: yes, vance, the third place where you use the students means of communication for educational purposes but in a neutral sphere ThomasLev: http://www.geocities.com/c.lankshear/ifte2003.html RitaZ: I'll work with Ning for the first time with my stds this year, hope I dont regret leaving Podomatic ThomasLev: that's for Rick ClaireB: vance, has something happened to konrad? he hasn't twittered for weeks RickRo: Thanks, Tom! CarlaA: Rita, you'll love it! NinaTL: You can always go back, Rita, but taking the whole operation to ning is the only way to really try it out VanceS: me? or Konrad? DennisOl: Carla has had a lot of success with Ning, I think. DafneG: you can ccmbine both, Rita NinaTL: Ning is something that is still off my radar screen NinaTL: for the future CarlaA: still a baby there, Dennis RickRo: ning kong? NinaTL: LOL RickRo: ning nong? BeyzaY: I'm a member of ning but to be honest I'm not very literate about it RitaZ: I wish I could, Daf, but motivating stds to get into one is hard! CarlaA: but the great thing about ning is that students have their own space and have control to post things. NinaTL: I am trying to explore the voiceboards in my class and also to learn more about ELMS/Blackboard DennisOl: Maybe, Carlinha, but the "Listening Plus" Ning site was (is?) very active. NergizK: Same with me Beyza. NinaTL: since UM uses Blackboard I might as well learn how to do it BeyzaY: I need to xplore in in detail CarlaA: loved it, Rick, ning kong! DafneG: We are having groups of students joing Ning for a project with the BC and the students love it. they are getting in touch with other students in Venezuela, and they are doing activities we have prepared for them as part of a workshop CarlaA: http://listeningplus.ning.com BeyzaY: to find how stsI can se it with my BeyzaY: sorry to find HoW ı CAN USE İT WİTH MY STS DennisOl: Sounds very interesting, Dafne. BeyzaY: ThnxCarla NelbaQ: By the way, talking about listening... I would like to invite you to visit my blog NelbaQ: about people with hearing problems... NergizK: Can I have a look at someones class NINg? CarlaA: It's very intuitive. I didn't really have to teach students anything. And they are highly anxious low-tech adults! NergizK: Just to see how they use it? RitaZ: thats great Daf, do you stds like joining other stds in the same country?here they seem to prefer to meet people from abroad DennisOl: What's the URL, Nelba? NelbaQ: http://blena.wordpress.com/. DafneG: they come to the BC for a f2f encounter and they they communicate through Ning CarlaA: Nergiz, you can join our ning community and play around. NelbaQ: it is both in English and Spanish and there is information RickRo: cool NelbaQ: you may find interesting NergizK: Oh, good RickRo: frio NelbaQ: there are also links to this problem NergizK: Is there a link Carla? DafneG: they seem to like it, Rita, they are involved in the activities and sending messages to each other CarlaA: and there are wonderful communities there, nergiz, classroom2.0, building a better blog NelbaQ: I am not referring only to deaf people but people with tinitus NelbaQ: or partial hearing losss. DafneG: we even have some contests, and they get prizes CarlaA: http://listeningplus.ning.com DennisOl: Very nice blog, Nelba. I took a quick look and will spend more time there later. NelbaQ: thanks Dennis. NergizK: I had that last year Nelba RickRo: Thanks for sharing this, Carla DennisOl smiles NelbaQ: I will try to keep it updated NelbaQ: because I am fond of the topic NelbaQ: hearing problems are "hidden" DafneG: for example I prepared some jigsaws with questions about linguistics, and the once they solve the jigsaw they have to send their answers, the first one to do so, gets a prize NergizK: Thanks, Calra NelbaQ: you cannot identify people with hearing problems NelbaQ: or at least it is difficult. RitaZ: what prize, Daf? CarlaA: great blog, Nelba! NelbaQ: we are teachers and sometimes we may have students with this problem NelbaQ: thanks Carla! NinaTL: Very interesting, Nelba DafneG: podcasts and videos related to language learning CarlaA: how do you plan to use it wth your students? CarlaA: videos, images? NinaTL: I am very interested in hidden disabilities because of my daughter's nonverbal learning disability ClaireB: you are right, nelba; my own son had a hearing loss and i diddn't realize it until his teacher pointed it out to me NelbaQ: Well, Nina you may find interesting articles there... DafneG: videos, we send them a CD NinaTL: It's nice not to look handicapped, but looking normal makes people much less forgiving of bizarre behavior NergizK: I have to leave now... But I'll stay in the room (for the recording) NergizK: Bye all! ClaireB: bue nergiz ClaireB: bye DafneG: we are planning to send MP3 or MP4 for our next rounds NergizK: And Thanks! RitaZ: bye, Nergiz! NelbaQ: there is a link hear-it-org DennisOl: Take care, Nergiz! I'll visit your blog again soon! NinaTL: Bye Nergiz, gule gule CarlaA: nergiz, it was grat meeting you VanceS: bye Nergiz BeyzaY: bye Nergiz DafneG: bye nergiz DennisOl: Güle güle. NelbaQ: bye BeyzaY smiles NergizK: Same Carla, and everybody NergizK: Güle güle NinaTL: We are not going anywhere (yet) VanceS: Alla ismarladik BeyzaY: u re anawesome student Dennis BeyzaY: and VanCE NelbaQ: Guau! Carla what a NIng place! super DennisOl: Only with the help of good teachers like you, Beyza. NelbaQ: Talking about facebook and twitter NelbaQ: I am reading a very, very interesting book about human bonds VanceS: tell us NelbaQ: it is called " Liquid Life" BeyzaY: Thnx Dennis it's my pleasure to have sts like u NelbaQ: in Spanish " Amor Líquido" CarlaA: They were my online students, Nelba. And some are still active in the ning space. It's a way to keep them connected. They know where they can get back to when they want to practice english DafneG: so, what time is Kip´s event? I haven´t been to SL today and have not received the annoucement RitaZ: 18 hs GMT, Daf NelbaQ: it is very interesting to see how human relation ships are developing due to Internet VanceS: I didn't announce on SL, but it's at 18:00 NelbaQ: and some other factor, of course. DafneG: thanks, Rita :-) NelbaQ: I do recommend it CarlaA: look at us, Nelba! DafneG: at SLenglish, Vance? RitaZ: thanks, Nelba, sounds good :-) CarlaA: awesomeness in action, as pointed out by Cris costa! DennisOl: Iyi dusuncelerin icin teşekkurler. BeyzaY: rica ederim VanceS: not sure Daf, do you need the slurl? NelbaQ: Yes, It is very interested. Written by a German writer DennisOl smiles DafneG: I see now you sent a message to the wia list BeyzaY: I wish I could join yo in SL but my cousin is getting engaged tonight VanceS: slurl is there BeyzaY: so I need to be there DafneG: I will try to be there NinaTL: I am about 4 books behind on my reading blog. Born on a Blue Day was an awesome read/listen VanceS: is there an engagement party? BeyzaY: yes RitaZ: dont think I will :-( NelbaQ: For example. the expression "it is cool" DennisOl: Tebrikler for your cousin, Beyza. CarlaA: is it a big party, Beyza? DafneG: I have a meeting in SL in half an hour NelbaQ: It is said that relations should be cool, not warm or hot... to avoid compromise. DafneG: lol, Nelba CarlaA: daf, are u teaching spanish in SL? BeyzaY: well,it won't be a big one but there ll be some family members and friends VanceS: who are you meeting, daf? DafneG: spanish, and SL skills to teachers BeyzaY: maybe we can have it in sl NinaTL: My Turkish friend Nedret would like to learn some Spanish. I showed her livemocha BeyzaY )) NelbaQ: our society relations are "touch" and "go" NinaTL: Does anyone have any other suggestions for her? DafneG: I am meeting Cris, a teacher I am working with in the spanish courses, Vance CarlaA: there's a great podcast, nina. CarlaA: in spanish... DafneG: Btw, Vance, Randall has taken me to great places in SL to see architectural stuff NinaTL: She is a complete beginner VanceS: cool daf CarlaA: I'l try to get the name and give it to you RitaZ: and btw Randall will also be presenting in TESOL NinaTL: When she signed up for livemocha she started getting emails in Spanish but she couldn't understand them! VanceS: he's the guy we met? DafneG: right, Vance NinaTL: Randall of esl listening lab? DafneG: he is doing amazing things for his students RitaZ: tep, Nina RitaZ: yep NinaTL: Is he a webhead? VanceS: I need to get in touch with him CarlaA: in SL, Daf? DafneG: yes, Carla ThomasLev: I got on webheadsenaccion ThomasLev: sometimes I understand! CarlaA: I need to get to SL more often... DafneG: he is a prof at MIchigan University in Urbana CarlaA: so much to learn! RitaZ: me too, Carla BeyzaY: I need to leave now everyone NinaTL: gule gule beyza, see you soon! RitaZ: bye, Bayza, hugs! ThomasLev: Illinois is in Urbana CarlaA: Daf, so are u teaching spanish? Is it paid? NinaTL: Have fun at the party VanceS: bye beyza NelbaQ: So do I, I need to get to SL more often... BeyzaY: but I'll be here to record the caht CarlaA: I'd love to improve my very poor spanish ThomasLev: Michigan is Ann Arbor DafneG: yes, Carla. I was hired by Languagelab BeyzaY: thanks have a great week CarlaA: bye, Beyza. Have a wonderful time! NinaTL: Daf how do you find the time??? NelbaQ: hey, Carla, I can tell you when I go to SL and meet there if you want ClaireB: bye beyza CarlaA: this would be great, Nelba ClaireB: i have to leave too == bye everyone! VanceS: come at 18:00 tonight Nelba RitaZ: bye, Clari! DafneG: I am planning, teaching, working in other projects, like gathering SL educational tols NinaTL: Bye Claire ThomasLev: and I also- CarlaA: necesito praticar espanol! VanceS: bye claire SusanR: before you go check out http://intrepidteacher.edublogs.org/ NinaTL hugs Claire ThomasLev: take care everyone! SusanR: bye all ThomasLev: thanks for the links! DennisOl: Is this Randall the Randall Davis of Randall's ESL Cyber Listening Lab or a different Randall. I'm confused. ThomasLev left the room (signed off). DennisOl: Take care, Claire! MelanieW joined the room. VanceS: daf and I are talking about a different randal RitaZ: Jane Petring was at home some 2 weeks ago, came to visit and to take up Spanish classes :-) DafneG: the spanish courses will start by June or July, I think. We are in the planning process DennisOl: Take care, Beyza! DennisOl: Hoşçakal! RitaZ: she in BAires now NelbaQ: By Byza! NinaTL: Hi Melanie DafneG: the classes are trialed first NelbaQ: who is in Baires, Rita? ClaireB left the room (signed off). DennisOl: Thanks, Vance. I thought so. RitaZ: Jane Petring NelbaQ: oh, where? NelbaQ: is she going to speak¿¿¿ RitaZ: about to leave by now, I know she met Gladys Baya there NelbaQ: ABS Congress? CarlaA: nice, Daf. DennisOl: Where is Jane going next, Rita? NinaTL: How long will jane be in Argentina? RitaZ: nope..., would not advise her to attend it!!!!! CarlaA: If you need a guinea pig at any point, I'm around, Daf! DafneG: thanks, Carla, will let you know :-) DafneG: Nelba are you ready for your trip to Japan? NelbaQ: oh, don´t tell me! NelbaQ: I am very very nervous RitaZ: I guess she must be leaving either today or tomorrow, heading for Peru DafneG: Evelyn is nervous and excited, too NelbaQ: plane tickets are getting more expensive due to the oil NelbaQ: so this week I must have this solved NelbaQ: yes, but I am fascinated and very proud DafneG -) NelbaQ: I am going to talk also in the congress CarlaA: Erika is sooo excited about it NelbaQ: My work has been accepted DennisOl: The WorldCALL conference in Japan is in August, isn't it? DafneG: the scholarship committte will pay directly to the travel agency, I think DafneG: they have provided for changes in the prices, Nelba, don´t worry CarlaA: Daf, it's amazing! You're everywhere!!! VanceS: in august, right NinaTL: Will several of you travel together to japan? DafneG: lol, Carla NelbaQ: It is my first time... Daf... that is why I am a bit nervous and anxious... DennisOl: Thought so. Thanks, Vance. NelbaQ: meeting Webheads, doing such a trip... DafneG: same with Evelyn, Nelba SusanR: bye all SusanR left the room (signed off). RitaZ: bye, Susan NelbaQ: I got lots of congratulating messages. NinaTL: I hope somebody is going to start a group blog for WorldCALL NelbaQ: yes, Nina has. NelbaQ: wait I will pass you the URL DafneG: and she has to take so many planes, that she is scared of getting lost, especially on her way back since she has to go through Chins NelbaQ: I think Evelyn is travelling with us NelbaQ: http://webheadsatwc3.wetpaint.com/ NinaTL: It will be a huge adventure! NelbaQ: absolutely!!!!!! hahaha DafneG: Evelyn is the only one going from Venezuela CarlaA: Erika was also trying to travel with you, right, Nelba? NelbaQ: oh, I got confused. it is Erika, not Evelyn DafneG: there were 92 applicants DafneG: it was very difficult to do the selection. NinaTL: It's an awesome opportunity DafneG: tons of work CarlaA: I can imagine, Daf. NinaTL: Erika is not listed on the wetpaint blog--did she also get a scholarship? SofiaK joined the room. SofiaK left the room. CarlaA: I wanted to apply, but couldn't as I'm living in the US, though teaching in Brazil! DafneG: I was asked to write some recommendation letters, but since I am part of the scholarship C. I declined CarlaA: she did, Nina NinaTL: How wonderful DennisOl: I wrote three recommendations. CarlaA: I wrote two DafneG: yes, I read them, Dennis :-) DafneG: yours too, Carla DennisOl smiles NinaTL: I somehow missed the entire procedure NinaTL: but I am thrilled for the winners! VanceS: who posted the link to Jabiz Raisdana's blog a while back? DafneG: me too, I was so glad when I saw so many webheads included in the final list :-) NinaTL: Well, I have to get on with my day: grading papers, reading for work, cooking bean soup.... NinaTL: Have a great weeke everyone and please don't be insulted if I reject your Facebook invitations to do whatever RitaZ: ok, Nina, CU around, have a nice Sunday! NinaTL hugs everybody NinaTL left the room (signed off). RitaZ: will need to leave as well, guys, CU next week ! VanceS: bye nina (too late) DafneG: I am leaving too, going to SL. See you later today at SLenglish SedatA: sorry... I was afk and in SL VanceS: Bye Rita NelbaQ: Well, I am leaving too... time for lunch RitaZ: bye and hugs all VanceS: I'm going home so I ca go to SL DafneG: hi Sedat NelbaQ: Great to see you. RitaZ left the room (signed off). DennisOl: Here's a Google search for Jabiz Raisdana: SedatA: hi Dafne DennisOl: http://tinyurl.com/2yjn82 DafneG: see you all around! NelbaQ: Looking foward to meeting you in FUKUOKA! DennisOl: Take care, Dafne. It was wonderful to make a connection today! NelbaQ: We should create a Webheads flag VanceS: we can have our own government DafneG: same here, Dennis. I have been very busy and sometimes I don´t get up for these sessions NelbaQ: Bye, bye DennisOl: I don't know how you manage everything, Dafne, but I greatly admire you for your "juggling" ability! NelbaQ left the room (signed off). SedatA left the room (signed off). DafneG: last night I wnt to bed early because I had only slept for 2 hours the night before DennisOl: BTW, Vance, I was able to convert the .docx file to a .doc file by using Zamzar. DennisOl: Wow! SedatA joined the room. DafneG: getting ready for the plenary in Valencia, and yesterday travelling and coming back DennisOl: When will it be, Dafne? DafneG: I converted a youtube video with Zamzar, too :-) VanceS: zamzar yah DennisOl: Very useful utility! DafneG: the plenary was yesterday, Dennis DennisOl: Ah, I see. DennisOl: Was it recorded? DafneG: no, I will post my presentation soon DennisOl: I look forward to seeing it! SedatA: hi again... VanceS: convert a youtube video?? DennisOl: Hi again, Sedat. WB! DafneG: I am now also writing the EVO report for TESOL DafneG: I am now working on the EVO report for TESOL DafneG: yes, I needed to download a SL video for my presentation yesterday. No internet connection at the conference :-( DennisOl: I look forward to the EV live events at TESOL NYC. DafneG: yes, Dennis, we are also working on that :-) DafneG: well, guys, gotta go. See you all! VanceS: ok, daf, thanks for joining us SedatA: see you DennisOl: It's amazing how many conference facilities don't have live Net connections—or even display screens. SedatA: bye DafneG left the room (signed off). DennisOl: Take care, Dafne. Get some sleep! BetsyA joined the room. BetsyA left the room. DennisOl: I think I'll be leaving, too—but I've enjoyed this session very much (as I always do). DennisOl: Carlinha: I'll be in touch. My thoughts are with you! DennisOl: Nergiz: I'll visit your blog again soon! DennisOl: Vance: Thanks for relaying my greetings at TESOL Arabia. CarlaA: Ok, Dennis! great to be here with you VanceS: I've got to go soon too CarlaA: see you around, Vance DennisOl: Thanks, Carlinha. VanceS: dennis can you remind me of the names in an email DennisOl: Will do, Vance. DennisOl: Take care, everyone. VanceS: i could also look in the transcript but will i remember? VanceS: ok, cya dennis DennisOl: CU all! DennisOl left the room (signed off). CarlaA: bye, everybody. VanceS: cya carla SedatA: bye Carla SedatA: I am leaving too VanceS: cya sedat VanceS: I'll try and get some transcripts to you DelinC joined the room. VanceS: hi delin, people are leaving gradually DelinC: Hi, Vance and online friends. How are you all? MelanieW left the room (signed off). DelinC: Sorry I am too late. CarlaA left the room (signed off). DelinC: what's topic in your session? SedatA: ok.. see you Vance SedatA: waiting for the transcripts SedatA: byes SedatA: bye all SedatA left the room (signed off). DelinC: which transcripts? Can I get it? VanceS: hi, i try and send sedat the transcripts for these sessions VanceS: when I think of it VanceS: or have time DelinC: thanks! VanceS: http://advanceducation.blogspot.com/2008/03/ive-been-asked-to-propose-task-force-to.html VanceS: busy blogging BeyzaY left the room (signed off). RickRo left the room (signed off). NergizK left the room (signed off). DelinC left the room (signed off). VanceS left the room (signed off). 2008.03.09 07:58:14 Signoff